Westinghouse WGen9500DF Dual Fuel Portable Generator

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Westinghouse WGen9500DF Dual Fuel Portable Generator

Post by johnmaci » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:37 pm

Hi Folks,
Looking at the Westinghouse WGen9500DF Dual Fuel Portable Generator as my backup, and it supposedly has keyfob remote start capability. Is this what is needed for AGS in the Skybox?
https://westinghouseoutdoorpower.com/pr ... -dual-fuel

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Re: Westinghouse WGen9500DF Dual Fuel Portable Generator

Post by Mike Curran » Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:33 pm

No. The key fob start is for starting the generator from a distance, just as you use a key fob to lock and unlock your car from a distance. You could do this but you'd have to leave the generator connected to Skybox all the time and it would be manual start only, not via AGS.

In order to use the Skybox AGS function you'd need to research how that generator's starting circuit is set up so that you could either wire the Skybox's dry aux contacts to the start circuit, or alternatively wire Skybox's 12 volt auxiliary output to your generator, as partially described here in the Skybox quick start guide: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qKNANW ... p=drivesdk
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Re: Westinghouse WGen9500DF Dual Fuel Portable Generator

Post by johnmaci » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:24 am

Thank you. I really don't understand much about these circuits, but I will forward this info to our installer.
He has sent more than one request in the past two weeks to Westinghouse and DuroMax (other genny), but has received no replies.

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Re: Westinghouse WGen9500DF Dual Fuel Portable Generator

Post by raysun » Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:43 am

johnmaci wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:24 am
Thank you. I really don't understand much about these circuits, but I will forward this info to our installer.
He has sent more than one request in the past two weeks to Westinghouse and DuroMax (other genny), but has received no replies.
Do you really need AGS? If so a backup-class generator with built-in two wire start capabilities will be a better (and more expensive) choice.

If you can do with manually starting and stopping the generator (in this case, via wireless remote), a portable generator can be used. I don’t use a Skybox, but imagine it functions similarly to other OB inverters with internal automatic transfer to the available AC source.

No portable generator I'm aware of is rated for backup usage and while they work in this service, it usually voids the warranty.

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Re: Westinghouse WGen9500DF Dual Fuel Portable Generator

Post by johnmaci » Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:10 pm

Thank you, I guess it would be nice to have AGS.
The issue I have with with Generac (and other whole house branded generators). is the need for either natural gas or propane. Natural gas is not available in my area, and the cost of a "Generac" would amount to $3k for the generator, another $1k+ to purchase a large bottle I can bury, then an ongoing contract for refills and a service contract for the Generac. If I run out of Propane during an extended Hurricane event (such as Michael where the roads were impassible for over 3 weeks), I would be out of luck.

My backup plan was to do a manual start/stop as needed, but was hoping not to be a prisoner of low battery alarms :)

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Re: Westinghouse WGen9500DF Dual Fuel Portable Generator

Post by raysun » Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:37 pm

Some if the more widely used electric start generators (e.g. Honda EU series) had after-market auto-start kits available.

I'm not sure about the Westinghouse units, though.

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