Substitute a MidNite Classic

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wirewiz
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Substitute a MidNite Classic

Post by wirewiz » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:42 am

Any drawbacks in substituting a MidNite Classic for an Outback FM with the Radian, MATE3, HUB system? On the other hand any advantages? Do both have remote monitoring?

gww
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My RE system: 1. installed
2. 5640 watts mx panels
3. 2 axial flux Hugh Piggot 500 watt turbines
5. 2 gvfx 3648 inverters
6. 1 mx 60 charge controller, 1 fm 80 and 1 morningstar ts60 pmw
7. outback mount, panel and sub panel
8. mate
9. 4 place hub
10. couple more cc, doc wattson
11. 800 ah, 48 volt fork truck battery

Re: Substitute a MidNite Classic

Post by gww » Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:33 pm

I don't know the answer but you will probly have more then one charge controller with the radians power rating to get the max out of it. If you go to "Northern Arizona wind and sun" forum you may find people mixing outback products with the midnite classic. I think there is only one member using the radian on that site, but some use the fx inverters. I was facing the same question for my system. I just bought the outback fm80 cause I wanted the comunication between componants.
Good luck
gww

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My RE system: Array 1: Sanyo HIT225 X 8 on Wattsun tracker. Array 2: Evergreen ES-E-225 X 12 on shed roof. Midnite e-panel with Outback GVFX3648, FNDC and Midnite Classic 150 X 2. 436 AH AGMs. PSX-240, Honda eu2000i X 2.

Re: Substitute a MidNite Classic

Post by mtdoc » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:55 pm

I use 2 Midnite Classics with a GVFX 3648 and it works great. You won't be able to use a few of the features of a Flexnet DC with this setup but the advantages of the Midnite CCs far outweigh and disadvantages IMHO.

gww
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My RE system: 1. installed
2. 5640 watts mx panels
3. 2 axial flux Hugh Piggot 500 watt turbines
5. 2 gvfx 3648 inverters
6. 1 mx 60 charge controller, 1 fm 80 and 1 morningstar ts60 pmw
7. outback mount, panel and sub panel
8. mate
9. 4 place hub
10. couple more cc, doc wattson
11. 800 ah, 48 volt fork truck battery

Re: Substitute a MidNite Classic

Post by gww » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:43 pm

Not to pick, but just to throw out a wish list. When I bought my fm80 it does not come with a manual. The midnite also doesn't come with a paper manual. I wish when buying new things, companies would offer as a cheep option a paper manual so I wouldn't have to have a computer connection or buy ink to use their product. I hope manufactures consider this request.

Thanks
gww

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Re: Substitute a MidNite Classic

Post by The Electron » Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:29 pm

mtdoc wrote:I use 2 Midnite Classics with a GVFX 3648 and it works great. You won't be able to use a few of the features of a Flexnet DC with this setup but the advantages of the Midnite CCs far outweigh and disadvantages IMHO.
Mtdoc, (and of course anyone else), could you explain what you have found to be the weaknesses/strengths of the comparisons of these 2 controllers, (and any others as well)? Thanks!

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Re: Substitute a MidNite Classic

Post by SuperiorSolarVA » Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:05 am

I'm also looking at this would like to install a 8.6kW array not sure what the flexnetDC or Mate actually does for the charge controller unless it charge by battery SoC and/or inverter mode.

Any outback representatives care to chime in on this??

dhamilton
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Re: Substitute a MidNite Classic

Post by dhamilton » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:26 pm

Hi SuperiorSolarVA,

The FLEXnet DC is going to give you the ability to have SOC on the Mate. You can monitor up to three shunts. This will give you more data about how your system is operating, and help you optimize your programming. The mate will allow you to monitor all of your OutBack Equipment from a single device.

I hope this helps.

Thank you,

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Re: Substitute a MidNite Classic

Post by dhamilton » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:30 pm

Hi WireWiz,

The main drawback is you will be unable to monitor the MidNite CC's on your Mate3, and OpticsRE. Having all OutBack equipment will also allow you to work with our tech support team for all of your equipment instead of having to call a couple companies.

Thank you,

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